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Poster: nolight Date: Aug 10, 2005 10:15pm
Forum: netlabels Subject: Re: Net Labels relying too much on Archive.Org ??

As you do not sell your music, the competition takes place on the level "who is able to get the audiences attention".
At this level you do compete with the majors and have a market.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffhippocamp.net Date: Aug 10, 2005 11:24pm
Forum: netlabels Subject: Re: Net Labels relying too much on Archive.Org ??

there is no competition, there is no market, we don't compete with anyone, the music is there for people who want it, people who find us by accident or by word of mouth, it's there for the regular visitors.

it might seem strange when people come from the commercial sector but things are very different, you can't compare the two, they're like swings and round-a-bouts. you can't even use the same language when talking about netlabels - target audience, projected sales, market penetration, money, timing, growth, demographics etc etc. they're all irrelevant, some people seem to have difficulty in getting their heads around this.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffaaron m Date: Aug 11, 2005 10:42am
Forum: netlabels Subject: Re: Net Labels relying too much on Archive.Org ??

You shouldnt speak with such authority or with such assumingly broad strokes. There are many netlabels that do everything you just said doesnt apply, especially in the German market.

I promote like mad. One's been featured on NPR and other national public radio services, print magazines, direction relationships with certain record labels, paid advertising, etc.

Some of the differences lays with monetary commitment and often the language used to approach people (editors, writers, reviewers, owners, promoters, etc).

Obviously since the turnaround profit doesnt exist, these methods of promotion will be used to a much lighter extent compared to a commercial label that (hopefully) helps pay bills. But, they are still used and looked at in the same way.

You dont tread into this realm, but that doesnt mean other netlabels don't. Thinner, Tokyodawn are 2 other (prominent) examples that jump immediately to mind that would scoff at what you just said.

There's nothing wrong with your thinking and it may be the most common behavior of netlabels, just don't try to ascribe it to everyone else...

This post was modified by aaron m on 2005-08-11 17:42:54

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffhippocamp.net Date: Aug 11, 2005 10:31pm
Forum: netlabels Subject: Re: Net Labels relying too much on Archive.Org ??

of course it's not EVERY label, but certainly most i've come across in the last few years, thinner, while an extension of autoplate certainly operates with similar principles. i don't speak with any authority other than my own experience over the last 6 years, in this thread in particular it appeared there were 4 or 5 people slagging and no one responding so i fought the other side (it now turns out it was just a couple of people with the rest writing with multiple logins for their own agenda).

if someone speaks of netlabels in such broad terms i'll respond in equally broad terms, is it okay for the original poster to generalise and call all netlabels crap and trying to compete with the record labels, home of bedroom tweakers etc etc but not okay for me to post a rebuttal? the percentage of netlabels (that have stuck around over say, a year) that do operate in a community based altruistic fashion is proportionally larger than those who operate out of desire for commercial gain.